tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post2658895194248932094..comments2024-03-04T04:41:53.830-06:00Comments on MY DEVISING: BFBN: babywise eating and sleeping patterns (the first 6 months)Claire@MyDevisinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03002496255868590540noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-24742686442582032442016-07-11T15:12:38.314-05:002016-07-11T15:12:38.314-05:00Yes, white noise is a great idea!Yes, white noise is a great idea!Claire@MyDevisinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03002496255868590540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-6735299731785254142016-07-09T14:57:22.119-05:002016-07-09T14:57:22.119-05:00Hi my daughter is six months old, she was a great ...Hi my daughter is six months old, she was a great sleeper. Until about four months started to cat nap, So I was thinking to use <a href="http://www.painawaydevices.com/best-sound-and-white-noise-machines/" rel="nofollow">white noise machine for baby</a>. What would you think??<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15353070797506568555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-13828461037417429052016-06-27T15:47:10.136-05:002016-06-27T15:47:10.136-05:00Hi! As for your daytime routine, I would say that ...Hi! As for your daytime routine, I would say that sticking to the 3 hour schedule always worked best for me. So if my babies slept past the 3 hour mark, I would wake them up to feed. I found that getting their daytime rhythm consistent helped their night sleep! Maybe try sticking with that for the daytime and see if that helps the nights at all. Let me know how it goes!Claire@MyDevisinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03002496255868590540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-12826118317171978192016-06-11T05:40:49.593-05:002016-06-11T05:40:49.593-05:00Hi awesome post and I hope to achieve success via ...Hi awesome post and I hope to achieve success via the babywise routine too! Started the eat wake sleep but have yet to drop the overnight feeds much though daytime she's at a more regular routine.she is 3monrhs old now and overnight she tend to wake at 2+am then 4+ close to 5.. N sometimes by 6+ close to 7 she's up..how do I drop thr night feeds?also for 3hourly schedule since she's not dropped night feeds..if she sleeps beyond thr 3hr feed mark..do u wake the sleeping baby? Mojohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706141614400296020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-31577708646841828252016-06-11T05:40:48.624-05:002016-06-11T05:40:48.624-05:00Hi awesome post and I hope to achieve success via ...Hi awesome post and I hope to achieve success via the babywise routine too! Started the eat wake sleep but have yet to drop the overnight feeds much though daytime she's at a more regular routine.she is 3monrhs old now and overnight she tend to wake at 2+am then 4+ close to 5.. N sometimes by 6+ close to 7 she's up..how do I drop thr night feeds?also for 3hourly schedule since she's not dropped night feeds..if she sleeps beyond thr 3hr feed mark..do u wake the sleeping baby? Mojohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706141614400296020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-33148827976541334682016-02-12T10:15:33.979-06:002016-02-12T10:15:33.979-06:00Hey! I totally understand baby #2 being so differe...Hey! I totally understand baby #2 being so different! <br /><br />As for the gassiness, have you tried any kind of gas drops or gripe water?<br /><br />And I think you're right ... maybe the dreamfeed was interrupting him. But I do think it might be worth cramming an extra 1-2 feedings. That way, you have at least 6 feedings during the "day" before bedtime. So maybe a 7:30,10:30,1:30,4:30,6:30,8:30. Or it can be any kind of combination at the end .. maybe 4,6:30,9 ... whatever works for you to get in at least 6 before bed. That may help?? Worth a shot at least?<br /><br />If that doesn't work, you can always resort to some CIO. We did that with my daughter around 11 weeks and it helped so much! Whatever you're comfortable with!<br /><br />Hope you see some improvement! Let me know!Claire@MyDevisinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03002496255868590540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-23792274097585352452016-02-05T09:26:44.302-06:002016-02-05T09:26:44.302-06:00Hi! I SO need your wisdom!
This is our second bab...Hi! I SO need your wisdom! <br />This is our second baby, our first was by the book Babywise- so easy! However, our second little boy is the complete opposite. He just turned 3 months old and still is crazy at night! <br />Our feeding schedule is <br />7:30<br />10:30<br />1:30<br />4:30 <br />7:30<br />Dream feed at 10:30. <br />He takes all his naps just fine, sometimes wakes up gassy, and then I have to rock him back to sleep. He is a super gassy kid. <br /><br />Anyway, he sleeps heavy until the dreamfeed and then we do the dream feed and then he is up whining or grunting or crying like every hour after that! It's exhausting. I put his paci in most times but sometimes that helps sometimes it doesn't. <br />We figured the dreamfeed just wasn't for him, maybe it's disrupting his sleep pattern so we skipped it cold turkey last night. It was terrible! He was up all night. I ended up just feeding him at 4 and he only ate like 3 ounces and went back to bed. <br /><br />He is ultra gassy. I'm even considering how to get him to sleep on his tummy?! I know the crazy risk that comes with that. I'm just desperate. Also, we didn't add in an extra feeding to replace the dreamfeed yesterday. Should we do 7 and 9:30 feedings? Or 6 and 8? <br /><br />We have tried everything I can think of:<br />Dressing him warmer<br />Dressing him cooler<br />He wears a bigger diaper at night<br />Sleeping on his left side, sleeping on his right side<br />The swing<br />EVERYTHING!! Haha!! <br />Well we haven't done CIO yet. Should we try that? Just don't want him to wake big brother but if it will help I will do it! <br /><br />Thank you for helping all of us mommas! You are awesome!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938197493322910115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-68478604297868690712015-11-17T14:45:03.709-06:002015-11-17T14:45:03.709-06:00I think that approach is just fine. I do understan...I think that approach is just fine. I do understand the overtired thing and that truly might be the case for the bad naps. However, it really is just trial and error to see what they will respond best to. Another thing you could try is feeding when she wakes early, and then feeding again right before she goes down for her nap. I've had some friends that have done this in weird phases where schedules have been crazy and sleep has been off. It may give her a full belly and help her sleep longer, which would hopefully scoot her back onto normal schedule. Keep me updated!Claire@MyDevisinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03002496255868590540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-66622508738647608982015-11-15T17:44:37.828-06:002015-11-15T17:44:37.828-06:00Thank you! If the baby wakes during the nap but is...Thank you! If the baby wakes during the nap but is not hungry but just won't sleep what do you do? I usually do CIO for 15 mins, if that doesn't work I rock and soothe and if that doesn't work I move her to the swing. She usually just ends up being awake in her swing until the next feedung (which I bump up 30 mins) is this okay? I worry it is making her over tired because her next nap is usually not a good one. Should I be taking a different approach? Baby is 6 weeks.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14877451377288876084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-21860166837067863602015-11-14T22:00:25.301-06:002015-11-14T22:00:25.301-06:00Hi! This is a common question and, unfortunately,...Hi! This is a common question and, unfortunately, I don't think there's a very straightforward answer. :/ But here are your options, in my opinion: <br /><br />Option 1: Feed and start new cycle starting at that waketime. So if she wakes at 9, you feed at 9 and start her waketime right then. Worst Case: This changes your normal schedule. Also, there's a possibility she won't be hungry, won't take a full feeding, and this will set up a kind of wonky "snacky" pattern for the rest of the day. Best Case: The cycle starts over and she flows perfectly with it. She takes great naps and doesn't continue waking early from other naps. Her schedule may even stretch back out and get back on schedule.<br /><br />Option 2: Get her up at 9, but try to hold her off a bit. Maybe it's 15 minutes, maybe it's 30, maybe it's until 10. Attempt to get back on schedule by keeping that feeding closer to the original feeding time (10). Worst Case: She's so exhausted from being awake that she wants to immediately go to sleep after eating, which affects your EWS pattern. Best Case: She's fine to wait, eats around normal time, and takes a great nap (whether it starts at the "new" waketime or the "original" waketime).<br /><br />Option 3: Like you said, feed at 9 and then feed again at 10. Worst Case: It creates a snacking pattern because she doesn't take a full feeding at 10. Best Case: She gets full at 10 and it gets her right back onto schedule.<br /><br />That may not be helpful, but I thought it might be beneficial for you to know that there are pros and cons to all of it. For me, I've only ever really done option 1 or 2. Don't feel like you have to pick the "right" thing. Different things work for different parents/babies, so you may have to just experiment and see what she responds to best. :) Also, her age plays a part too. For younger babies, I'd lean more towards option 1. For older babies, I'd lean towards option 2. <br /><br />Hope this helps! Let me know what you figure out!Claire@MyDevisinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03002496255868590540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-29425905105738960022015-11-14T16:53:05.470-06:002015-11-14T16:53:05.470-06:00Hi I have a question about waking early from naps....Hi I have a question about waking early from naps. If baby wakes up an hour into a nap crying and I determine she needs to be fed - do I feed her and put her back to sleep, or feed her and keep her awake? <br /><br />Then after that feed do I adjust to a new 3 hour schedule from the time of that feed, or feed her again on the 3 hour mark of the original schedule. <br /><br />So for example she is supposed to nap from 8-10 but wakes up crying and hungry at 9. Do I feed her at 9 and again at 10, or adjust to a new cycle from 9-12.<br /><br />Thanks! Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14877451377288876084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-67621507924745637822015-04-11T22:30:01.749-05:002015-04-11T22:30:01.749-05:00Yes, reflux makes a lot of things trickier. :/ My...Yes, reflux makes a lot of things trickier. :/ My first had awful reflux and I remember keeping him up after bedtime feeds to burp him really well. For MOTN feeds, it was different. I still focused on burping him well, but I didn't give him AS much time. (Still, it was more time than a non-reflux baby would need for a night feeding.) So, just follow her lead on that. If she doesn't seem like she can handle eating, burping, and going right back to sleep, then I think keeping her upright and holding her for 30 minutes (or however long) is completely fine for you to do. And because you're putting her down for naps while she's awake, she's still learning to fall asleep on her own. I don't think you will create bad habits that cannot be broken. :)Claire@MyDevisinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03002496255868590540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-46605012499027245692015-04-03T00:01:25.044-05:002015-04-03T00:01:25.044-05:00Thanks so much! Just trying to get in the right ro...Thanks so much! Just trying to get in the right routine early on! I have another question if you<br />Don't mind!! I put her down drowsy and awake at nap times, but bedtime and middle of the night<br />She usually wakes and nurses but falls back asleep on breast. I try to wake her a little but it's hard. Also she has reflux and is on Zantac. I have to always hold her up right for 30 min after a feed. She falls asleep on me. I just don't want to create bad sleep habits, but also know she needs to be upright. Any advice on babies with reflux and still<br />Doing babywise!? Meganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02656272380854043618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-71434656605475525492015-04-02T15:46:21.877-05:002015-04-02T15:46:21.877-05:00Hi! That's a good question and, really, it...Hi! That's a good question and, really, it's just based on your preference and what your baby does best with. That's a pretty good feeding schedule for 5 weeks so if you'd rather not mess with it, then just leave it as is! My daughter (2nd child) operated like that - no dream feed; just put her to bed and let her wake. Making her eat a dream feed was not successful at all and it interrupted her sleep. (more here: http://www.mydevising.com/2015/01/how-nova-slept-through-night.html ) My son did have a dream feed because that's what he did best with. (more here: http://www.mydevising.com/2012/08/schedule-transitions-for-sleeping.html ) If you want to try waking her at 11 to feed to see if that will give you a longer stretch afterwards, you could! But it really is just up to you! :)Claire@MyDevisinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03002496255868590540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-2037624306403080052015-04-02T03:47:39.613-05:002015-04-02T03:47:39.613-05:00Hi! My baby is almost 5 weeks. I have a question a...Hi! My baby is almost 5 weeks. I have a question about the 11pm feed. She goes to bed between 730-8 and I just let her sleep until she wakes and treat it as a middle of night feed. She usually gets up at midnight and then 330. My question is should I stop letting her wake up on her own and wake her up at 11 instead? Thanks for the feedback! Meganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02656272380854043618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-77486621853056942582015-03-06T15:35:24.607-06:002015-03-06T15:35:24.607-06:00That's great to look for yawn cues! Yeah, I&#...That's great to look for yawn cues! Yeah, I'd love to know if you notice that 5 minutes makes a difference! Hope you're on your way to some longer naps! :)Claire@MyDevisinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03002496255868590540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-6079267011228051932015-03-06T08:17:41.068-06:002015-03-06T08:17:41.068-06:00Thanks for replying! When I see the first (or sec...Thanks for replying! When I see the first (or second) yawn I get my son down at that point. I will try going 5 minutes shorter, or perhaps down after the first yawn. My son is nursing, and I am quite sure he gets a full feeding..he will eat about 12-14 minutes each side, each time we nurse. Thanks for your thoughts!KeithLynnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06075302667554718150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-34901059369938198502015-03-05T15:59:00.756-06:002015-03-05T15:59:00.756-06:00First, I will say that you do not need to worry ab...First, I will say that you do not need to worry about messing up his internal scheduling. If you're aiming for any kind of structure or routine, you are doing awesome! So cross that off your list of things to worry about! ;)<br /><br />Second, have you tried shortening his wake time to see if that helps his naps get longer? Even just 5 minutes sometimes does the trick!<br /><br />Third, are you certain that each feeding he receives is a full feeding? (Not sure if he's nursing or bottle-fed) If babies haven't learned to take full feedings, sometimes they'll snack, which makes for a shorter nap because they're hungry and ready to eat again. <br /><br />If you can't seem to get longer naps no matter what you try, then don't feel bad following more of a EWSW pattern for a bit until you can figure it out.<br /><br />Hope some of this helps! Let me know!Claire@MyDevisinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03002496255868590540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-32834263737358168432015-03-05T13:01:27.625-06:002015-03-05T13:01:27.625-06:00Thanks for your post. My son is 8.5 weeks and can...Thanks for your post. My son is 8.5 weeks and can eat every 3 hours, his wake time is 60-70 min, and his naps generally may be as short as 1 hour. I know you stated nap times were inconsistent till about 3 months(ish) so what did you do for that extra 30-45 minutes until it was time to feed again? This is confusing me and I am having trouble keeping the 3 hour schedule because of this. So obviously I am not able to just feed at (7 wake time), 10, 1, and 4. Because of not being able to hit these feeding times am I really messing him (his internal scheduling) up?? Your advice would be greatly appreciated!KeithLynnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06075302667554718150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-91729963068977851972014-08-26T14:07:47.796-05:002014-08-26T14:07:47.796-05:00Yes- actually, I have been playing with wake times...Yes- actually, I have been playing with wake times. During that heavenly period he was staying up for 2 hours and since then I've had a really hard time taking the waketime down to 1.5 hours. I have been trying it as best as I can--it seems that between the nursing and the solids almost a whole hour goes by and then there's not much time left for alone play or a stroller walk, etc.--which is so frustrating. Do you think if I cut back the waketime that would help him take longer naps?Sarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05138656241300043437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-79513065866132371562014-08-26T13:50:59.551-05:002014-08-26T13:50:59.551-05:00Sara - I can see why you'd be losing your mind...Sara - I can see why you'd be losing your mind! When my kids have hit big changes like this, I always feel like I'm going nuts. :) Your schedule looks great and 5 feedings is pretty normal for that age, so I'm not necessarily thinking you'd need to add in another nursing (unless you feel your supply is going down for some reason). If you do add another feeding, I'd try to get it in the "day" as much as possible - adding the dreamfeed back in might just create more issues. Have you thought about waketimes at all? Does it seem like there may be an issue there - either with it being too short or too long?Claire@MyDevisinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03002496255868590540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-23376589539468237432014-08-26T12:57:29.702-05:002014-08-26T12:57:29.702-05:00Dear Claire, I have a question for you. I am wond...Dear Claire, I have a question for you. I am wondering if you have ever seen this before: My EBF babywise baby had a major catch-up growth spurt at 4.5/5 months. I think this caused him to get stuck in chronic 45 minute naps and wanting to nurse 6 to 7 times a day, including a 10pm dreamfeed. He also started waking up at 6am. I finally figured out that he needed more calories and so I introduced solids. The effect was incredible. He suddenly went to a 4 hr schedule (2 hr awake, 2 hr nap) on his own. It was heavenly. But he was still waking at 6am, sometimes 5:45am ( our desired wake time is 7:30!)<br /><br />Then came the big change: upon turning 6 months the heavenly stage stopped---his morning nap suddenly dropped to 45 minutes and he acted starving again. I resisted it at first, but then I gave in and have adjusted the schedule so that he is eating much closer together but he only sleeps 45 min each nap except the 12-2pm (still 2 hrs). He now has"breakfast" nursing at 6:30am, solids at 7:15ish and "lunch" nursing at around 10am, solids at 10:30ish. His afternoon nursing is at 2:00pm, dinner nursing is at 5:00pm, solids at 5:30pm and bedtime nursing at 7:15, put in bed afterwards. Between the early waking at 6am and the short play times I'm loosing my mind. I don't know why its happening and I can't seem to change it. Do you think I should bring back a dreamfeed at 10? Or perhaps he needs more calories in the solids? Does he need another feeding during the day? He's a very happy, active baby--always moving and tries to scoot on his tummy, so maybe he's burning the calories too quickly? Thank you for any insight!!!Sarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05138656241300043437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-87385204313614933242014-08-26T12:39:54.799-05:002014-08-26T12:39:54.799-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Sarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05138656241300043437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-81305198649534173562014-08-19T15:32:50.110-05:002014-08-19T15:32:50.110-05:00Thanks for the update!
Sleeping Schedule
- Having...Thanks for the update!<br /><br />Sleeping Schedule<br />- Having a consistent bedtime is great. However, I would say that having a consistent morning waketime is pretty important as well. With my first, that was the key to all sleeping/schedule success. :) With my second, it's taken more time to get there. She's actually done better with a consistent bedtime (like you're doing) and then gradually moving to a consistent morning waketime. For example, I'll basically start the day anywhere from 7-8. (Babywise suggests staying within 30 minutes though, so I'll eventually get there.) This means that if she eats at 6, then I wake her and feed her again at 8. That's what creates a more predictable schedule. But, if what you're doing is working (just adjusting waketimes/naps around when she wakes in the morning), then that's great! But if you're wanting to land on a consistent start to your day, then feeding at the same time every morning will be helpful.<br />- This is a great question, but there isn't really a solid answer I can give. You'll really just have to see what she can handle. If you notice that you're off schedule a few days out of the week and her sleep/naps/behavior is crazy, then you know you've pushed it. Some babies can handle a lot of change and some babies can only handle a little. I'd say that you should stick to your schedule as often as you possibly can. <br />- 11-12 hours of sleep at night is perfect! An uninterrupted 11-12 hours at night is the goal. :)<br />- This is another thing that will just require you to be observant of how she's acting. If you feel she can handle more waketime, try it one day. If naps are awful, then you'll know she's not ready. Also, as feedings continue to spread, waketimes will change. It's a pretty gradual process.<br />- This is one of the important keys of Babywise - you do what you need to do in order to stay on schedule. It not only helps you plan your day, but it helps your baby know what to expect. So yes, if it's time for another feeding, then I'd wake her. Of course, give or take 15-30 minutes won't hurt anything. But you probably wouldn't want her to sleep an extra hour or anything. It's the schedule that helps organize the day/night sleep and what gives you the great, long stretches at night. :)<br /><br />Feeding Schedule<br />- It's quite possible that the snacking issue has to do with her 1-2 night MOTN feedings. She should be good with getting at least 10 (but maybe 12) hours of uninterrupted sleep at night at 6 months. (Of course, as long as she's gaining weight. :)) If you're getting in 5-6 feedings in the day, that should be good. I'd say if it's closer to 7-8, that may be why she's snacking more often. <br />- For all solids, I always breastfed first and then offered them immediately after. That way, it's still a part of the feeding time and not a separate feeding time. So whenever her first feeding of the day is, nurse and then do solids right after. Same with the lunchtime feeding.<br />- I assume all babies are different with this, but as long as you always offer the breast first, she'll take what she needs.<br /><br />I hope this helps!<br />ClaireClaire@MyDevisinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03002496255868590540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6139933170224696069.post-78683562238401620622014-08-18T14:32:35.013-05:002014-08-18T14:32:35.013-05:00Thank you for all of your past comments and sugges...Thank you for all of your past comments and suggestions and Thanks in advance for your next reply. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11587423221430040283noreply@blogger.com